Macedonia: Greek or Slavic? How Greece got a country to change its name 🇬🇷 🇲🇰



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To try everything Brilliant has to offer — free — for a full 30 days, visit 🤍 . The first 200 of you will get 20% off Brilliant’s annual premium subscription. What is the controversy between Greece and North Macedonia? Why do they both claim Alexander the Great as part of their culture, and deny the patrimony of Ancient Macedonia to one another? This video is intended to explain to my audience NOT from the Balkans why this feud persists, and why so many crazy comments appeared on the Ancient Macedonian language video (this one: 🤍 ). NOTA BENE: If you’re new to this topic, I recommend reseaching more on your own, since my presentation here is rather superficial. In this video I attempted to show three points of view: the Greek perspective, the North Macedonian perspective, and the perspective of an outsider — outsiders like me see these controversies as pretty silly, and I pointed to my own supercilious reaction in this video, to make a point that the Macedonia naming dispute is very important to a lot of people. I encourage you to look into the facts and the deeds around the dispute before coming to your own conclusion. 🦂 Support my work on Patreon: 🤍🤍 📚 Luke Ranieri Audiobooks: 🤍 🤠 Take my course LATIN UNCOVERED on StoryLearning, including my original Latin adventure novella "Vir Petasātus" 🤍 🦂 Sign up for my Latin Pronunciation & Conversation series on Patreon: 🤍🤍 ☕️ Support my work with PayPal: 🤍 And if you like, do consider joining this channel: 🤍🤍 🏛 Latin by the Ranieri-Dowling Method: 🤍 🏺Ancient Greek by the Ranieri-Dowling Method: 🤍 🏛 Ancient Greek in Action · Free Greek Lessons: 🤍🤍 👨‍🏫 My Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata playlist · Free Latin Lessons: 🤍 🦂 ScorpioMartianus (my channel for content in Latin, Ancient Greek, & Ancient Egyptian) 🤍🤍 🎙 Hundreds of hours of Latin & Greek audio: 🤍 🌍 polýMATHY website: 🤍 🌅 polýMATHY on Instagram: 🤍🤍 🦁 Legio XIII Latin Language Podcast: 🤍 👕 Merch: 🤍 🦂 🤍🤍 🦅 🤍🤍 📖 My book Ranieri Reverse Recall on Amazon: 🤍 Intro and outro music: Overture of Die Zauberflöte (The Magic Flute) by Mozart

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Macedonia: Greek or Slavic? How Greece got a country to change its name 🇬🇷 🇲🇰
Macedonia: Greek or Slavic? How Greece got a country to change its name 🇬🇷 🇲🇰
Macedonia: Greek or Slavic? How Greece got a country to change its name 🇬🇷 🇲🇰
Macedonia: Greek or Slavic? How Greece got a country to change its name 🇬🇷 🇲🇰
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2023-12-07 02:12:38

Skopjans 🇲🇰 ex Vardaraskan region of slavian tribes are thiefs not only of Greek history 🇬🇷
but by extension of the global heritage held by the Macedonians of Greece who are descendants of Alexander the Great, the greatest Greek General mankind has ever known

2023-12-06 17:22:23

You are pretending to find " which language they spoke....!?!?!?" or what you find written!!!

2023-12-06 13:56:03

iRY_8gZMHQc&t=23m48s 23:48 By the way, why something with this local macedonian dialect never found but only scripts in Greek or Attic Greek ? Greece is the land of excavations. Something had to be found from 5th, 6th or 7th century B.C . Nada ? Why ?

2023-12-06 00:29:21

Bulgaria is not Greece wtf?!

2023-12-05 06:52:09

As an Iranian, this would be similar to Iraq or Turkey calling itself "Persia" today. Sure, the lands were part of the old Persian territories, but they're not ethnically Persian so it would be a mischaracterization and wrong in every way. People would hear about the Persian empire or this or that and many would automatically equate it to the country called "Persia". So I fully understand why this was annoying for Greeks

2023-12-04 22:08:54

Macedonia is a name that represents the mother goddess, same like Ma-donna and it's name is not in Greek. (dot) Learn Macedonian and don't "eat bananas" before you do it.

2023-12-04 20:32:01

slavic 1000000 percent, we eat and live differently

2023-12-03 20:42:36

Alexander was Greek as was ancint Macedon!

2023-12-03 19:34:46


2023-12-03 05:38:53

Dear Luke, how cool would it be for you if you could charge every stupid nationalist a dollar for letting them comment their bubbemeises in your video. Ignorants will always reproduce the propaganda they were raised with. I commented in your other video in favor of them, so won't hide my sympathy for the Greeks, not only because I live among them for more than three decades now, but mostly because their national myth is coherent and, at least, somewhat plausible compared to what's out there in other Balkan/Middle Eastern stores. I spent some years in Greek Western Macedonia too, so I know first-hand that - save of ideology - it is not easy to disentangle past. These are feelings I can understant. Me myself am - technically at least, because I've never been there - an American, born in Amman, Jordan and raised as a kid in many middle eastern countries. My parents were of Dutch and Scottish origins. And all my three (yes, three) exes, all had some greek and some slavic connections. (For those curious, my first had a greek-american father and a Polish-born Jewish maternal grandmother. My second is technically greek from Western Macedonia who speaks the local idiom and insisted she could watch Tarkovsky's movies without subtitles, yet she found true light and now holds a local counsellor position for a greek right-wing party. The third is a Soviet-born, partly Pontic Greek and partly Ukranian-and-only-God-knows-what-else, some gypsy and jewish roots also included). To make my point, any question about origins is futile except on darwinian grounds. I don't mean to offend a fellow Roman who sports proudly his SPQR flag, but I guess you already know your famous italian surname is actually Old Norse. In the same vein, Greeks should be proud too for their "Mycenaean" blood, but they should also not forget that slavic-speaking minorities survived as far as Peloponnese in the south until well after crusades and latin occupation. Northern Macedonians, on the other hand, should try to accept reality, admit that Greeks and their wild variegations (various Hellens, even slavic-speaking greeks like those denigrated as "Гркомани‎", Blachs, Arvanites, etc) were always the main ingredient of the Ottoman Macedonian salad and actually the only potential friend in their balkan neighborhood. Unlike Serbs, and mainly unlike Albanians and Bulgarians, Greeks have no territorial ambitions there, all they want are clients. In fact, Greeks throughout their history were never balkanic, they even didn't have a collective name for Balkans until they borrowed this turkish one for an area that was for medieval eastern Romans something like Mexico for modern US. Yet, no-one should underestimate their reactions, being themselves top masters of irredentism for 200 years now, they can smell a rat from afar - they didn't argue περί ὄνου σκιᾶς. Bottom line: wise people know there is only one valid argument in "ethnic" disputes - might. "Nations" are the vehicle of financial interests and ethnic/religious myths are their way to recruit fools as the needed cannon fodder. After all, all "Macedonias" worldwide already belong to banks and hedge funds - nothing worth-fighting for unless you are a stockholder.

2023-12-02 13:04:19

confused anglo saxon british noises 😒

2023-12-01 22:06:53

There are Ancient Cemeteries in Macedonia In Greece and the names are overwhelmingly Greek in Macedonia some Thracian and Egyptian names from memory in the cemeteries Philips, Ptolemy, Alexander etc all Greek names but Macedonians , wheras the Romans had Latin names

2023-11-30 02:42:45

Greek didn't get Macedonia to change its name. USA and the EU did that.

2023-11-29 16:29:21

Is Alexander the Great Greek?? Well....Alexander the Great was descended from Hercules from his father's side and Achilles from his mother's side. Therefore, undisputably, 100% Greek. Plutarch says so and many respectable classical scholars around the world say so too.

2023-11-29 08:01:16

Even the ancient Greeks said Macedonians are not Greeks. So why does everyone believe that Macedonians were Greek? And one thing we also know is that they were not Slavs!!

2023-11-28 23:10:14

Interesting rabbit hole, but do you think you could go into the rabbit hole that is the romanian conspiracy theories that latin came from dacian? I think it would be very interesting.

2023-11-28 21:13:15

Greece is also a modern concept, a rebellion funded by British, French and Russian empire to weaken the Ottoman empire.

2023-11-28 14:25:38

Also good on u for pronouncing the the words correctly when ur not even balkan

2023-11-28 13:50:26

Macedonia stole the bulgarian language
Macedonia stole the old japanese flag
Macedonia stole part of the serbian flag

Macedonia is a REGION in Greece which is where Alexander the great is from. Macedonia then stole the name and Greece didn’t like that so recently, the country Macedonia was changed to North Macedonia

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